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my Great Grandfather, Edward Pimm. UPDATE - any information please

Posted:
Sat May 05, 2007 9:20 am
by mandycan
Hi everyone. I am trying to find out as much as I can about my Gt Grandfather, Edward Pimm. From the medal card his regt no. is 8420. He enlisted in Aug 1914 and demobilised in June 1919. He was possibly in the 2nd battallion???
If anyone has any information I would be really grateful
Mandy
Pte Edward Pimm 8420

Posted:
Sun May 06, 2007 2:46 pm
by Mike Jones
Hello Mandy,
welcome to the Forum. Yes your great grandfather was in the 2nd Battalion but he definitely enlisted some time before August 1914. What makes you say he enlisted in August 1914, please? To help us look him up, what do you know of his military career?
Regards Mike

Posted:
Thu May 10, 2007 12:42 pm
by mandycan
Hi Mike
Sorry about late reply. My computer at home isn't working!! As soon as it is I will post what I know so far. Doing this from work, so got to go before I am spotted!!!
Thanks
Mandy

Posted:
Sat May 12, 2007 8:08 pm
by mandycan
Hi Mike
I am back online! This is all I know of my Gt Grandad's military life.
From a military genealogy site I found the National Roll of the Great War and this is what they had about Edward Pimm
PIMM, E., Corporal, Worcestershire Regiment. Volunteering in August 1914, he proceeded to the Western Front shortly afterwards, and there saw severe fighting in various sectors. He took part in the Battles of the Marne, the Aisne, Ypres, Hill 60, Festubert, Loos, Vimy Ridge and the Somme, and many other engagements until the cessation of hostilities. He returned home for demobilisation in June 1919 and holds the 1914 Star, and the General Service and the Victory medals.
It then has his address, which was definately the right address. On the medal cards I have found a Edward Pimm, Worcestershire reg. The dates are given as 1914-1920. And his reg no is 8420.
Apart from a photo, (which I have tried to send to the webmaster, but I don't think it has been received yet), this is all I have, so any information would be great.
Many Thanks
mandy
Date of Birth

Posted:
Sun May 13, 2007 11:11 am
by Mike Jones
Morning Mandy,
I need to Know when Edward Pimm was born and where. The date of birth does not need to be exact, the year will do. Do you know where he was living in 1913/14? This information helps decide if he was a Regular or Special Reserve soldier.
Regards Mike

Posted:
Sun May 13, 2007 2:13 pm
by mandycan
Thank you Mike.
Edward was born 1887 in Birmingham, probably 24th October. The family all lived in Small Heath area of Birmingham, so it was likely that he was living in Small Heath 1913/14. The last address I have of his family was Oxford Terrace, Bolton Road, Small Heath.
Many thanks for helping me.
Mandy
Cpl. Edward Pimm 8420

Posted:
Thu May 17, 2007 11:40 pm
by Mike Jones
Hi Mandy,
sorry off on holiday tomorrow, so short reply, just to show I have not forgotten you. Edward either joined as a Regular in 1904 when he was 17 or more likely he joined as a Special Reserve in 1911. He was DEFINITELY in long before 1914. He is on the original Embarkation list of the 2nd Battalion when they left Southampton on 12th August 1914. To be on that list, anyone had to have a minimum of 6 months previous service. My grandfather was with him! EDWARD'S name is on the Honoured Embarkation panels in Worcester Cathederal, he is entry number 880. He fits the bill for Regular or Special Reserve, age and location could put him in either group. It is the bit about him volunteering in 1914, that makes me think he was Special Reserve. The regulars had no choice, they went where ever ordered and when told. The S.R. , did have an element of volunteering. It is unlikely he stayed in the 2nd Bn. all the way through the war. Have you PlumPudding his Medal Index Card yet? If you have not, look at the posting "My Grandfather" by Paul . It is on the 1st world war section of this Forum and tells you how.
Regards Mike

Posted:
Fri May 18, 2007 1:24 pm
by mandycan
Dear Mike
I cannot tell you how grateful I am that you took the time to find this out for me. I am going to read and digest over a cup of tea! Fancy him being with your grandfather!!!
I have PlumPudding his medal card, I need to look at it again as it didn't make much sense to me at the time (being new to military research).
Once again, thank you so much. I am going to pass this information onto Edwards 2 surviving children (my grandmother and her brother). His son was very young when he died and never really knew him. He has asked for any information about his dad, Edward. It will mean so much to him.
I did find out that Edward threw his medals in Small Heath Lake, Birmingham in a temper because he couldn't get any welfare assistance for his family, shame isn't it?
Have a nice holiday.
Kind regards
Mandy
national roll army great war

Posted:
Fri May 18, 2007 5:41 pm
by CPLCLIVE
Mandy
I do not know if you have this bit of information it is taken from the National Roll of the British Army for the Great War Cpl E Pimm Worestershire Regiment enlisted August 1914 Proceeded to Western Front shortly after saw some severe fighting in various sectors .He took part in the Battles of the Marne,Aisne,Ypres,Hill60,Festburt,Loos,&Vimy Ridge and the Somme and many other important engagements untill the cessation of hostilities.Returned home for demob in June 1918 Holds the 1914-1918 star General Service Medal and Victory medals ,His home address is given as 3,Oxford Terrace Bolton Road Small Heath Birmingham.
I do hope this will help you
Best Wishes
Clive

Posted:
Sat May 19, 2007 8:35 am
by mandycan
thank you so much Clive. Mike and I had discussed it earlier in the thread. It's interesting as the date of Edward joining up does not tally with what Mike has kindly found out for me. Am I right in thinking that the information submitted to the National Roll of the British Army was given by the soldiers relatives? Which I guess is where the dicrepancy lies, they obviously got their dates wrong.
Once again thank you.
Mandy
possible

Posted:
Sat May 19, 2007 8:56 am
by CPLCLIVE
Mandy
It is quite possible that reletives may have given these details In the Roll no number is given just that he volunteered in August 1914 But the number is the all important thing and Mike would know he is a master of Regimental numbers . I myself I am afraid am not. anyway what I have done is scanned the piece in The Rol and will Email it to you
All the best
C live

Posted:
Sat May 19, 2007 11:59 am
by mandycan
Thank you for all your help, Clive. I really appreciate it.
Best wishes
Mandy
welcome

Posted:
Sat May 19, 2007 5:55 pm
by CPLCLIVE
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You are more than welcome
Best wihes
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