2nd Battalion Drafts (Gheluvelt Roll in mind)

[Trick]

Peter.

This is great news, thank you. I'm sure they would have cost a lot more if the seller had this information!
Another one into the collection, (it's getting a bit out of hand now, according to the wife), but it is a privilege to own all of these medals to brave men.

Regards, Rich. Still looking for Chantler medals.

[peter]

Yes I have similiar problem in that my wife says I have far too many books, which is true. Sorted street name on the posting (with edit).
If you ever shop at M&S Tamworth we may pass each other without knowing.

Peter

[Glyde]

Peter,
Pte William (Thomas) BUTWELL, 10110.
Since our last communication on the above I have been trying to find his history. I have now located pretty much all in the way of data on usual sites except his 1901 Census. Do you have anything in your records please?
If not I will try the Birmingham History Form they have some good sleuths.
All the best,
David

[peter]

David,
Like yourself I couldn't find 1901 census for Thomas.

Did you know his brother, William Arthur Butwell served with RWF (Pte. 8104)? He was KiA 16th May 1915 leaving a widow, Beatrice and 3 children. When Thomas's wife Gertrude died (June Q. 1922) Thomas re-married (his brothers widow) Beatrice Louisa (4th Aug. 1923).

Service papers for brother are available (make interesting reading). Hope a member of the Birmingham History Form will come up with something for you (and me) .

Of interest Beatrice Louisa Chinn, I wonder if she is related to Carl Chinn?

Peter

[Glyde]

Peter,
Yes thank you. He seems to have been a regular defaulter. One wonders why he joined the Army? A drink problem. Could this point to why we can't find his 1901 Census?
I will try the BHF tonight.
Sorry I don't understand your reference to Carl Chinn?
All the best,
David

[peter]

David,
Carl Chinn well known Birmingham historian (lots of books about Brum etc). Checkout Carl's Brummagem Magazine on the BHF

Peter

[Glyde]

Peter,
Thank you. As they say everyday is a school day!
best wishes,
David

[Glyde]

Peter,
Answer on the BHF.
David

[peter]

David,

Well done BHF members. That's the problem with transcriptions being incorrectly done from the original document.

Did you have anything from NA regards Pte. 7998 James J. Brown?

Peter

[Glyde]

Peter,
I had forgotten about the NA request. I asked for a quote "for copying" and never got a reply. I am in France at the moment so when I get back I'll try again. Incidentally I have just received another batch of "Firms" from an Auction House and I should now have all for 1951/52/53 so again when I get back I'll have another look for Lt. Lilley.
All the best,
David

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Hi Peter, it's been a while!
I have just got hold of QSA, KSA, 14 Trio & clasp to 5302 CQMS Albert Edwards, KIA 10/11/14. He is a confirmed charger but other than that I can find very little about him. I know he was a Corporal in SA but after that I'm struggling. Do you have any information on him?

Rich.
Still looking for Chantler Medals.

[peter]

Hi Rich,

Nice set of medals you have got, was a memorial plaque with them? Pity if not.

Let me know what information you have I will see if I can add anything . I can tell you his two younger brothers also served with the Worcesters and both were KiA. A mother loosing her 3 sons on consecutive years (14, 15 and 16). William (10389) was a 14 Star man (9.5.1915 1st Bn. but went out with 3rd Bn. wounded and returned) married no children. Harry (160) was a 15 Star man (3.1.1916 1/8 Bn) married 3 children.

Peter

[Trick]

Hi Peter.

Unfortunately no plaque. I have medals to W and H Edwards, but not those numbers!
I have very little information on Albert. I can't even find his MIC and service papers, but have confirmed his clasp from the 14 star roll.
I am also watching a star to 8358 Cpl later Sgt G Sharp 2nd Btn. Was he a charger?

Rich.

Still looking for Chantler medals.

[peter]

Rich,

I have Sharps Regimental number as 9358. Newspaper report in Worcester Herald 15th January 1915, wounded so I would say he was with 2nd Battalion at Gheluvelt, but charger?

Peter

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Peter.

I have his star now. It is 9358, my typo! I have found a pension document online stating that he was in 'C' coy 2nd Btn. wounded and awarded a SWB and dead in 1918, but he is not on CWGC site?
It has a Chelsea Pensioner number and his address as 53 Pond Lane Wolverhampton. It is dated 23/2/1918.

Rich.

Still looking for Chantler Medals.