Worcestershire Regiment

by **Mike Jones** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:23 am

Morning Lars,
Thanks for your help and expertise. Masses of information, which I am trying to make a decision on. What is your feeling, please? Was he in the charge at Gheluvelt or not? Was it that he had lost contact with his old mates at the DCLI and got a "Favour" done by the Worcesters to sign his Clasp?
Best Regards Mike

by **LarsA** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:05 am

My interpretation is that he served with the 1st DCLI in october & november 1914. There is nothing to indicate service with the Worcesters before his transfer in 1915, he is carried on the DCLI rolls before this. The only possibility I think would be if he was separated from his unit and found himself with the Worcesters for the Gheluvelt charge. It seems a very remote possibility to my mind, or what do you think?

Could the fact that his wound in action 21.10.1914 was noted in his file that followed him to the Worcesters be enough to issue his 1914-clasp?
/Lars

by **Andy Horton** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:05 pm

I am with Lars on this.

Normally the parent regiment would have to confirm that a soldier was under fire to receive his clasp. However as his records state he was wounded on the 21st October 1914 that would be enough to confirm entitlement.

If he had joined the 2nd Btn on the charge I am sure someone at some stage would have noted 2nd Worcesters and others eg stragglers, or soldiers from different Regiments had taken part. As a lot of books of the battle of first Ypres inform us of the composite regiments that fought together after suffering very high casulaties.

Gut feeling not at Gheluvelt.
Thats my two penny worth, I am now going back on the fence.
Andy

by **peter** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:53 pm

Remembering the men of the 2nd Battalion Worcestershire Regiment who on this DATE 94 years ago (31st October 1914) made their famous charge at the battle of Gheluvelt (94 years to the day tomorrow). Also all the men from the other Regiments involved on that fateful day at Gheluvelt. We remember them.

Peter

by **beardie** » Fri May 08, 2009 3:08 pm

hi peter ,
found a newspaper obit for 5642 cqms walter thomas smith later killed as a 2nd lt in the bedfords. his. parents lived in brierley hill. do you want a copy?

by **peter** » Sat May 09, 2009 5:28 pm

Hi Steve,

Yes please that would be most appreciated. I don't have much information on CQMS Walter Thomas Smith other than he also served with the Bedfordshire Regiment.

Regards

Peter

by **beardie** » Sat May 09, 2009 6:03 pm

peter,
i posted on the great war forum, i knew i would catch you somewhere :lol:

check on your post in the 'soldiers' section of the great war forum

im enochbeard by the way on the forum

17 years in the army by the time of his death, i dont think he should be forgotten

by **allanp** » Sun May 10, 2009 7:09 pm

Hi Peter & Steve

I have found 2 entries in the Worcester Herald.

8th May 1915 edition
5642 Cmp Sergt Major W. Smith 2nd Battalion Wounded

22nd May 1915 edition
1st Southern General Hospital Birmingham 1st May 1915
5642 Col Sergt W. T. Smith 2nd Battalion Wounded Servere.

Regards Allan

by **peter** » Sun May 10, 2009 10:30 pm

Hi Allan & Steve,

Thank you both for the information, it's been added to database.

Regards

Peter

by **ravrick** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:33 pm

Hi, please can you check if 7676 Pte Thomas Black is on the roll, he deployed to france 31.08.14, no battalion stated on his MIC?

Cheers, Rick

by **beardie** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:09 pm

peter,
found a small article on 8251 bert wanklin(hope span filter lets his name through :oops:

)

do you want a copy?

beardie

by **Mike Jones** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:41 am

Morning Steve,
I am absolutely positive that Peter will want the information on 8251 Bert Wanklin. Peter is really dedicated about this project and lists ALL information he can obtain on any man. If he does not reply soon I will fone him and make him aware of your good offer. We like the situation where we swop information. Which leads me to you Rick. In 2007 we asked you TWICE for information on 9960 Pte. J. Vaughan. No response. We asked again in 2008. No response. Now YOU want information on Pte. T. Black 7676. Guess what?

For anyone reading this post, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, if you come across any reference to Gheluvelt in October 1914 or any man involved in the action, LET US KNOW.
Regards Mike

by **beardie** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:09 am

morning mike,
i recently went through county express of 1914 and found articles on 2nd men! a good number killed before the 31st oct. i need to sort them out.

i will email the article to peter, if i can find his email address :shock:

thanks steve

by **beardie** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:16 am

found him and emailed him :lol:

by **ravrick** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:38 am

Mike,

my sincere apologies... I have been out and am still out in the middle east since 2007 , i am hoping to visit the UK in a couple of weeks and I will search out the information on J. vaughan - if I can find it amongst my boxed up paperwork.....

Regards,
Rick

Worcestershire Regiment

2nd Battalion Drafts (Gheluvelt Roll in mind)

Thank you.

Gheluvelt

7676 Pte T Black

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