2nd Battalion Drafts (Gheluvelt Roll in mind)

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Re: 2nd Battalion Drafts (Gheluvelt Roll in mind)

Postby Trick » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:29 pm

Peter. I think he may have been wounded as I have a letter from the Masonic Lodge, (he was master at one point), stating he was a Gheluvelt 'survivor'. The museum have his medals.
I have submitted an email via webmaster with details of Captain E G Williams. He was definitely there, listed twice on list, and I think I have filled in some gaps. I have his medals on the way.

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Re: 2nd Battalion Drafts (Gheluvelt Roll in mind)

Postby peter » Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:58 pm

Rich. Capt. Williams was at Gheluvelt and was wounded and taken prisoner. I would be interested to know what new information you may have.

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Re: 2nd Battalion Drafts (Gheluvelt Roll in mind)

Postby Trick » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:28 pm

Peter. He was previously Captain in Queens Own Royal West Surrey Regt. gaining QSA CC clasp & KSA 01-02. He was interned at Gutersloh and after repatriation in March 1918 transferred to RASC. I have a defence medal with group but haven't found out why as yet. He was a motor mechanic after the war I believe. New group to me so still digging. There was a photo of officers at Gutersloh submitted by his wife to a newspaper during war, it was taken by him, but I haven't been able to find this yet although I know it does exist.

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Re: 2nd Battalion Drafts (Gheluvelt Roll in mind)

Postby peter » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:16 pm

Rich. Thank you for information.

Believe this may be the photograph who mentioned in your lasst posting (officers at Gutersloh). The Graphic, March 4 1916

ERROR://www.sleekburnprints.com

Once on the site search prisoners at gutersloh.

Also on ebay

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Re: 2nd Battalion Drafts (Gheluvelt Roll in mind)

Postby Glyde » Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:03 pm

Peter,
Do you know if PTE Arnold Edgar JONES, 7708, was at Gheluvelt please?
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Re: 2nd Battalion Drafts (Gheluvelt Roll in mind)

Postby Glyde » Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:54 pm

Peter,
Did you see my request dated 30 November, 2019?
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Re: 2nd Battalion Drafts (Gheluvelt Roll in mind)

Postby Trick » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:50 pm

Peter.
Thanks for information re: Gutersloh.
I have another man who I am hoping was at Gheluvelt. 9620 Sjt F C Bateman. I have his 14 trio & confirmed Delhi Durbar. He transferred to MGC and was MID.
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Re: 2nd Battalion Drafts (Gheluvelt Roll in mind)

Postby peter » Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:32 pm

David,

I have been checking Jones again after seeing your post. I don't have a great deal of information on him I'm sorry to say and can't say with any confidence that he was at Gheluvelt. However I have not found any information to say for certain he wasn't there (not that this helps you). His pension ledger information gives a birth year for 1884 and an address for Martley, Worcestershire but checking records I can only find a record for 1882 (Martley) so he may have falsified his age when enlisting (1903). Discharged 28.05.18, disabilities laryngitis, bronchitis. Sorry I can't give you a more positive reply.
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Re: 2nd Battalion Drafts (Gheluvelt Roll in mind)

Postby peter » Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:53 pm

Rich,

With Bateman nothing found for certain to say he was not at Gheluvelt however a wounded report for F. Bateman (1914) 'The Genealogist' might alter this. I don't have access to this site so don't know if this is the F. Bateman (we) need or gives a date that would eliminate him. I have not found a report to date for him as wounded so it may not be 9620 F. Bateman (so not 100%).

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Re: 2nd Battalion Drafts (Gheluvelt Roll in mind)

Postby Glyde » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:14 pm

Peter,
Thank you.
Like you I came to the conclusion that he came from Martley, Worcestershire. At sometime he apparently resided at Cotteridge, Kings Norton, Worcestershire. He resided in Martley until he joined the Worcester's and is on the 2nd Battalion roll in India, on the 1911 census. Then he seems to disappear.
I could find no indication of him being ill, injuried, on leave or transferred before Gheluvelt so my assumption was that he was there.
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Re: 2nd Battalion Drafts (Gheluvelt Roll in mind)

Postby peter » Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:19 pm

David,

Looked for him on 1939 England & Wales register but nothing so maybe he had died before 1939. Possible death record March Q. 1936 Arnold E. Jones aged 56 Birmingham.

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Re: 2nd Battalion Drafts (Gheluvelt Roll in mind)

Postby Glyde » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:53 pm

Peter,
Appreciate the time you have spent on this man. Dying in B'ham would tie in with his pension ledger which indicated in 1918 he resided in Kings Norton, but there is at least one other in the Midlands Census with the same name?
So I'll leave this challenge for another day.
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Re: 2nd Battalion Drafts (Gheluvelt Roll in mind)

Postby Trick » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:41 pm

Peter.
Thanks for information on Bateman. I now have a trio to 13317 Pte/Sjt Harry L Challender 2 Worc. To France 12/08/14, confirmed clasp & roses on MIC. Do you have anything on him?

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Re: 2nd Battalion Drafts (Gheluvelt Roll in mind)

Postby peter » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:25 pm

Rich,

Born (May 1894) and enlisted (1913) in Birmingham. Served BEF, MEF & Salonica. Discharged (also married) 1919. Died 1961.
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Re: 2nd Battalion Drafts (Gheluvelt Roll in mind)

Postby Trick » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:36 pm

Thanks Peter.
Do you think he was a charger or do you have anything that says he wasn't?

Rich. (Still looking for Chantler medals).
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